We meet Ian Mountford, a governance, risk and compliance consultant who transitioned into cyber security late in his career after being the victim of a hack. Ian talks about his rich and varied career before cyber, which incorporated spells in professional sports, HR, banking, and running his own recruitment businesses. He tells us how difficult it was to find a path into cyber security and how a university tutor put him on the right track to incorporate his hard-won soft skills with new technical chops into a successful career consultancy. We touch on the importance of building a network and helping others, what Ian (and Matt) learnt from playing team sports, and how the path into cyber security needs to be made smoother in order to tap into the rich resource of experienced people looking for new skills and challenges.