This is an interview I have been wanting to do for a while with John Grenfell. Serving with the United Methodist Church in Saint Clair MI, John and I talk about his story of wayward years, redemption in Christ and how He leads into ministry. John also reads us an inspiring work about what it truly means to be called into the pastoral ministry.

You can find the source of what John read here - https://www.amazon.com/Entrepreneurs-Life-Venture-Purposeful-Trinity/dp/1576831639

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