This episode and the next one feature my guest JOSH NEFF, a librarian from Kansas City. Both of us participated in NaNoWriMo. Josh has done it before and it was my first time. He's what's called a "pantser" - no outlining/planning, writing by flying by the seat of your pants; I'm a plotter - need outlines and to know where the end is. My previous recording was only me solo talking about NaNoWriMo so some of that is repeated; but having Josh engaging in conversation about writing made for a fantastic dialog about how different our processes are.