Rob Tracinski talks with David French, lawyer and writer for National Review, about "David French-ism" and the debate between liberal and illiberal conservatives. The conversation includes: life as an "ism," how Donald Trump gives people permission to be bad, how liberalism defends itself with its own "antibodies," Protestants versus Catholics, how campus insanity used to be much worse, how the nationalization of politics fuels the culture war, the Gresham's Law of the Internet, and the future of the word "liberalism."

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