Karen and Nathan host Dr. Chad Hayes and Natalie Newell from the Parenthetical Science podcast for a rousing discussion about how parenting is harder than it needs to be and how people fall into the neverending woo rabbit hole.

Links from the episode:

Social media/HPV article: https://authors.elsevier.com/a/1WeU26gdZRcH6E

Nathan's Needlephobia video: https://www.facebook.com/PedsGeekMD/videos/1460845477371119/

Parenthetical Science podcast: https://www.parentheticalscience.com/