TJ De Santis discusses the power that failing has over an individual and why that fear sometimes causes some people to never make the attempt. He also tells LaMarr Woodley and Carlos McMath that some people may lack that fear because of what scientists are finding inside your cat's litter box.

Ep. 15: The Fear of Failure & Why the Solution Might Be Found in the Litter Box

"The Next Play with LaMarr Woodley" is the official podcast of Super Bowl champion and NFL standout LaMarr Woodley. The former Michigan Wolverine is joined by co-hosts Carlos McMath, and TJ De Santis. Together the trio discusses various topics in and outside of the sports world. "The Next Play" is all about perspective. Woodley, McMath, and De Santis share their opinions on topics with insight gained from years in sports and business.

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Ep. 15: The Fear of Failure & Why the Solution Might Be Found in the Litter Box

Ep. 15: The Fear of Failure & Why the Solution Might Be Found in the Litter Box