In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Alastair MacGibbon, one of Australia’s most experienced cyber security and technology resilience leaders.Alastair has shaped Australian cyber security from almost every angle: as a Federal Agent with the Australian Federal Police, founder of the Australian High Tech Crime Centre, Australia’s inaugural eSafety Commissioner, Special Adviser to the Prime Minister on Cyber Security, National Cyber Security Adviser, and founding executive at CyberCX.Ahead of his September conference presentation, Alastair joins us to discuss how AI is changing the threat environment, why the traditional separation between cyber, physical and insider risk is breaking down, and what physical security managers need to understand now to protect their people, facilities, information and operations.This conversation is designed to give security leaders practical ways to think about converged risk, without pre-empting the full detail of Alastair’s upcoming presentation.

In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Alastair MacGibbon, one of Australia’s most experienced cyber security and technology resilience leaders. Alastair has shaped Australian cyber security from almost every angle: as a Federal Agent with the Australian Federal Police, founder of the Australian High Tech Crime Centre, Australia’s inaugural eSafety Commissioner, Special Adviser to the Prime Minister on Cyber Security, National Cyber Security Adviser, and founding executive at CyberCX. Ahead of his September conference presentation, Alastair joins us to discuss how AI is changing the threat environment, why the traditional separation between cyber, physical and insider risk is breaking down, and what physical security managers need to understand now to protect their people, facilities, information and operations. This conversation is designed to give security leaders practical ways to think about converged risk, without pre-empting the full detail of Alastair’s upcoming presentation.

Ep 158 - When Cyber Risk Becomes Physical

Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Deborah Evans (Edith Cowan University) about where unmanned systems and robotics are heading, what’s already in use across security and law enforcement, and what the industry must do to prepare.

We discuss current developments in UAVs and other Unmanned Systems (UxS) and robotics, the pace-setting influence of China and the United States, and how modern conflict—especially Ukraine/Russia—is driving rapid innovation, adaptability, and proliferation.

From a practical security operations lens, we explore what’s likely to be adopted next: more persistent surveillance and patrol, disaster response, and environmental monitoring, enabled by higher-level data analytics and increasingly autonomous systems. We also look further ahead at emerging capabilities such as micro and nano systems, swarming, and the evolution of Counter-UAS (C-UAS)—including detection methods and the trade-offs between kinetic, non-kinetic, and hybrid defeat approaches.

Finally, we address the issues that will shape real-world adoption: preparedness, regulation, social and national security concerns, and why the security industry must lead proactively, accept measured crossover from military development, and invest intelligently in C-UAS readiness.

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Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Deborah Evans (Edith Cowan University) about where unmanned systems and robotics are heading, what’s already in use across security and law enforcement, and what the industry must do to prepare. We discuss current developments in UAVs and other Unmanned Systems (UxS) and robotics, the pace-setting influence of China and the United States, and how modern conflict—especially Ukraine/Russia—is driving rapid innovation, adaptability, and proliferation. From a practical security operations lens, we explore what’s likely to be adopted next: more persistent surveillance and patrol, disaster response, and environmental monitoring, enabled by higher-level data analytics and increasingly autonomous systems. We also look further ahead at emerging capabilities such as micro and nano systems, swarming, and the evolution of Counter-UAS (C-UAS)—including detection methods and the trade-offs between kinetic, non-kinetic, and hybrid defeat approaches. Finally, we address the issues that will shape real-world adoption: preparedness, regulation, social and national security concerns, and why the security industry must lead proactively, accept measured crossover from military development, and invest intelligently in C-UAS readiness.

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