In this conversation, we discuss with Brian Skripac the evolution of BIM and VDC within the construction industry. Brian shares his journey from architecture to industry advocacy, highlighting the importance of collaboration and technology in improving project outcomes. We explore the challenges of implementing BIM, measuring success, and the cultural barriers that hinder technology adoption in construction. The discussion emphasizes the need for a shift in mindset to fully leverage the benefits of BIM and VDC in delivering successful projects. In this conversation, Brian Skripac, Lars, and Stephen Poppe discuss the integration of Building Information Modeling (BIM) into project delivery, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and technology in the construction industry. They explore the challenges faced by the industry, the role of AI in enhancing workflows, and provide insights for future generations entering the field. The discussion highlights the need for a shift in mindset towards collaborative delivery models and the potential for significant improvements in efficiency and productivity.