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🎙️ EP 17: 680 Million People. 11 Regulatory Systems. 1 Opportunity: Turning ASEAN’s Chaos into Capital.


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THIS WEEK'S REALITY CHECK

The 47th ASEAN Summit just wrapped in Kuala Lumpur. Trump was there. China's Premier showed up. Everyone talked about integration.

Meanwhile, the smartest founders in Southeast Asia are betting on something completely different: That the chaos isn't a bug—it's the entire competitive moat.

This episode unpacks why ASEAN's fragmentation might be its biggest strategic advantage, and what founders need to do in the next 24 months before the window closes.

WHAT WE COVER

🌏 The ASEAN Integration Paradox

Why 58 years of "working toward unity" might be missing the point

The middle child syndrome: Too big to ignore, too fragmented to dominate

Why EU-style integration would probably destroy what makes SEA interesting

đź’° Why Silicon Valley Keeps Failing Here

Google, Uber, Amazon—the graveyard of Western tech in Southeast Asia

How Grab succeeded where Uber failed (hint: it's not just execution)

The competitive moat that only local players understand

🎯 The Strategic Non-Alignment Playbook

Malaysia's simultaneous partnerships with China, UK, and U.S.

Singapore's multi-ecosystem strategy

How to become the Switzerland of the tech cold war

🏙️ The Tier One City Thesis

Why KL has more in common with Bangkok than with Alor Setar

How to think about regional expansion without waiting for perfect alignment

The borderless team concept that actually works

⏰ The 24-Month Window

Why the next 2 years determine the next 2 decades

What happens when ecosystems lock in

Five tactical moves that separate exits from shutdowns

KEY QUOTES

"What looks like chaos is just Southeast Asia building its own operating system." - Kevin

"Grab took 12 years to navigate 11 different regulatory systems. That's not a bug. That's the training ground that creates anti-fragile companies." - Kimberly

"The tier one cities have more in common with each other than they do with tier two cities in their own countries." - Kevin

"Strategic non-alignment isn't fence-sitting. It's positioning yourself as the translator when two superpowers don't speak the same language." - Kimberly

FEATURED DATA POINTS

🌏 ASEAN population: 680 million people (3rd largest market globally) 💰 Combined GDP: $4+ trillion 📊 ASEAN age: 58 years old (middle-aged in geopolitical terms) 🚀 Grab market presence: 12 years across 8 countries 🏢 SEA Group: 10+ years building in fragmented markets 🏛️ Number of ASEAN regulatory systems: 11 different frameworks 💳 Payment structures: 10+ different systems across region

TACTICAL TAKEAWAYS FOR FOUNDERS

If you're fundraising:

Default to regional thinking from day one

Plan for 24-30 month runways (not 18)

Map policy advantages across markets systematically

If you're scaling:

Build borderless teams with deep local knowledge

Study government priorities in each market

Engage regulators as partners, not obstacles

If you're entering SEA:

Don't wait for perfect alignment—it's never coming

Focus on tier one cities first

Build for fragmentation, not uniformity

RESOURCES MENTIONED

đź“„ 47th ASEAN Summit Outcomes (May 2025) đź“„ Malaysia-US Trade Agreement Details đź“„ ASEAN Digital Economy Framework đź“„ Startup ASEAN Summit Agenda

đź”— CONNECT WITH US:

đź’Ľ LinkedIn: Kim Yeoh and Kevin Brockland

đź“§ Newsletter:https://seaofstartups.substack.com/

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TAGS:

ASEAN, Southeast Asia, startups, venture capital, regional expansion, fragmentation, competitive strategy, market entry, emerging markets, Grab, SEA Group, government relations, cross-border business, tech ecosystem, strategic partnerships



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