Tony and I had such an amazing conversation about everything from fear, to choosing safety, and peeling the onion to see what is at the core of our fear and insecurities. This was the longest podcast episode to date, but it felt like the shortest one because Tony is such an amazing orator and  gifted story teller. He takes some of the most complex issues and obstacles, and breaks them down to be more simplistic and less daunting and more manageable. My life is abundantly better for doing this interview, and I am confident yours will be as well after you listen