We continue our series of conversations with birth workers who have made a mark in our field. Today's guest is Dr. Amy Gilliland! We have a wide-ranging and thought-provoking conversation about how doulas relate to each other, a doula's scope, the medical system, and more! Dr. Gilliland is an independent PhD researcher and educator. She is the author of 'The Heart of the Doula' and a forthcoming book specifically about doulas and how we relate to one another.