The Michaels had a convo that left michael M with a weird aftertaste. So we decided to revisit that conversation and have a more general check in to our relationship. In doing so, we had some interesting exchanges about money, appreciation, what we choose to measure and what kinds of things make us revert to a " socialized mind" - and also how we want our relationship and collaboration to be. But it takes a lot of vulnerability and openness to get there.