CONTENT WARNING: From around the 48 minute mark the conversation mentions physical and sexual assault, so please take care of yourself and others while listening.

After last week’s episode all about uncontrollable laughter, Josh and Sean talk about the things that make them cry. Films, TV shows, social media videos about stray dogs being rescued… and more! The discussion turns to the hosts’ emotional connection to music and how it can take them back to emotionally challenging times in their lives.

Sean tells Josh about his appointment at a sleep clinic and how he is hoping to get treatment for his sleep apnea, while Josh shares his recent woes with an infected wound an a bad reaction to antibiotics.

This episode also explores EMDR (eye movement and desensitisation) therapy for trauma and PTSD.

Enjoy the ride!

Made In Hackney

Sean works for a charity called Made In Hackney and they are currently fundraising - please donate here if you can:

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/community-made

About the Hosts

Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts

Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan

Theme Music

Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts. Stream it here:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6EU6ZKIkfy74bLNi1QMX5f