The late Jimmy Valvano once asked us to: laugh, cry, and think each day. 

I have taken that advice to heart and have tried to apply it to conversations. 

You'll hear all three in this damn good conversation.

In addition to Julie and I enjoying the heck out of this conversation, we talk about heavy topics like:

• Race relations in the United States
• Life for young people in the pandemic
• What it means to be an adult
• Why Julie calls adulthood "delicious" 

and much more. 

If you enjoy this one, go back and listen to Episode 12 to hear Our 1st Conversation.

In the meantime, reach out if I can be of help.

As always, thanks for listening!

--Joe