Citations Needed

Ep 189: PragerU, the 'Product Of His Time' Defense and the White Guilt Amelioration Industrial Complex


Listen Later

"Hitler was a product of his time," historian Kent Gardner told us in 1975, just thirty years after the end of World War II. "Was Frank Rizzo racist, or just a product of his time?" The Philadelphia Inquirer pondered in 2017 about the city's notoriously racist former police commissioner and mayor just 26 years after his death. "Christopher Columbus, no saint, was product of his time," explained a 2013 commentary in the Staten Island Advance.

We often hear this sentiment in reference to historical atrocities. Slaveowners, colonizers, genocidal tyrants, and right-wing bigots from decades or centuries past didn't know any better. They were simply responding to the time and place in which they lived — a different time, marked by different social mores, moral standards, and laws.

While it's perhaps fair to cite this cliche to explain, rather than justify, awkward song lyrics or offensive language and stereotypes used in movies from decades ago. But it's an entirely different issue with respect to how we venerate and remember the past. Especially since, in the most popular cases, famous people’s bad actions were roundly criticized, at the time.

Long popular as a catch-all to hand-wave away the misdeeds of slaveowners, colonizers and war mongers, Increasingly educational movements on the American right––from Ron DeSantis trying to remake history education to conservative propaganda targeting kids like PragerU — this "product of its time" cliché and its close cousin "don't judge the past by the standards of today" is making a bit of comeback, if it ever went away at all.

The defensive, superficially appealing cliche is a popular go-to for those who think we shouldn't criticize the supposedly sacrosanct secular deities of our past — from George Washington to Ronald Reagan. But the whole concept operates under a glaring double standard: how can we take pride in and venerate the supposedly good things Americans in history did but ignore and dismiss the bad things? How can we pick and choose our moral inheritance at will? How does the need for us to downplay slavery, colonization, and Jim Crow continue to be such a strong political force? And whose interests does this down-playing serve in 2023?

On this episode, we dissect the notion that the reactionary forces of history have just been "products of their time." We'll explore the ways in which this and related concepts are not only inaccurate, but also convenient instruments of right-wing historical revisionism, and how the need to make people feel good about our civic mythology makes for bad history, and even worse politics.

Our guest is historian and museum educator Erin Bartram.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Citations NeededBy Nima Shirazi and Adam Johnson

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

3,838 ratings


More shows like Citations Needed

View all
Jacobin Radio by Jacobin

Jacobin Radio

1,402 Listeners

The Dig by Daniel Denvir

The Dig

1,486 Listeners

Chapo Trap House by Chapo Trap House

Chapo Trap House

8,793 Listeners

Rev Left Radio by Revolutionary Left Radio

Rev Left Radio

3,228 Listeners

Trillbilly Worker's Party by Trillbilly Worker's Party

Trillbilly Worker's Party

1,869 Listeners

TRASHFUTURE by TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

565 Listeners

The Antifada by Sean KB and AP Andy

The Antifada

921 Listeners

Know Your Enemy by Matthew Sitman

Know Your Enemy

1,899 Listeners

TrueAnon by TrueAnon

TrueAnon

3,151 Listeners

Blowback by Blowback

Blowback

2,921 Listeners

This Machine Kills by This Machine Kills

This Machine Kills

205 Listeners

Bad Faith by Briahna Joy Gray

Bad Faith

2,670 Listeners

Guerrilla History by Guerrilla History

Guerrilla History

553 Listeners

American Prestige by Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

American Prestige

705 Listeners

Guys: With Bryan Quinby by Bryan

Guys: With Bryan Quinby

795 Listeners