What does it mean to have a religious experience? Do I have to talk to God? Do I have to be touched by the divine? Or… could it be more than that? Maybe I’ve already had one and didn’t even realize it.

In this episode, we dive into what it really means to be religious—and to be open to having a religious experience at all. With a little help from psychologist, philosopher, and father of pragmatism William James, we unpack what it means to call yourself religious, who gets to make that claim, and why it might be a much grayer area than most people think.

Turns out, your next religious experience might be closer than you think—so keep an eye on your morning coffee.