Justin and Stephen talk with cattle rancher Levi Gosnell about life on the ranch, including mental health among farmers and ranchers, COVID’s impact on the local volunteer fire department, the complicated relationship between ranching and the environment, and the invisibility of producers to many consumers. They also discuss hopes for the next generation of Christ-followers and Levi’s church’s response to COVID. Justin and Stephen also talk golf, the explosion in Beirut, and the complicated ways in which academics think about theories. More resources at profsinrooms.com

To donate to production costs, visit profsinrooms.com.