In this episode Katie and Karla are joined by Jenni Winter-Leach from Flying Changes. They discuss how working with your mindset is a complete package and is not just riding focused. Katie and Karla ask for tips on avoiding social media drama, trolls and how to cope with others judgement. Obviously the episode doesn't remain totally on topic. They also cover the horror of home schooling, bad haircuts, Horsebox crashes and Karla's 28 dressage score (just in case you missed it last episode!)