In an enlightening chat from 18 months ago, University of British Columbia in Vancouver President Santa Ono, was already talking about those things that became critical for effective education during the Covid pandemic. Insightful ideas from this innovative leader serve as a basis for disruptive solutions for the hybrid landscape of post-pandemic education. His views on those things that have become key sources of concern, like climate change, societal inclusion and empowerment, inspire and enrich many communities’ efforts to make the world a better place. A Podcast by Tec Sounds.