We meet Hal Lonas, CTO of Trulioo and a recognized innovator in cloud security and machine learning. Hal is a long-standing champion of automation technology, having worked in C-suite roles for multiple household names. Hal has also co-authored several patents and holds a degree in aeronautics and astronautics from MIT. He tells us how he shifted from aerospace to software after he took a job as a coder whilst still in school. How he loved the immediacy of solving problems and creating things with code, and how a great boss helped him understand where his skillset and experience fitted in with the wider organization. Hal describes himself as a nerd - someone for whom learning new technology is always a joy. And he says that he actively wants to be told he is wrong because that is how he gets to learn new things.