The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast

Ep # 2 - Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security?


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#Lalit Choda (Mr. NHI), founder of the ‪@NHIMgmtGroup‬ launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, Non AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.In Episode 2, Alon Jackson, CEO @AstrixSecurity, joins Mr NHI to discuss the big question: “Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security?” - based on a recent NHI Management Group poll where 35% said Yes and 65% said No.


We discuss:

  • How AI agents fit into the broader NHI ecosystem

  • What an AI agent really is (cutting through the hype)

  • Authentication & authorisation challenges unique to agents

  • How to detect anomalies in non-deterministic agent behaviour

Plus, we launch a brand-new segment:
🎙 “Mr NHIs – Human Identity in the Hot Seat” - 10 rapid-fire questions on identity security, NHIs, and Agentic AI.


  • Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/
  • Connect with Alon on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackson-alon/

Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course.

Key Moments

  • Mr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat (1:26 – 3:24)
  • Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security? / The Overlap between Agentic AI & NHI (3:45 – 6:40)
  • Defining What an Agent Really Is? (10:32 – 12:29)
  • Why Agentic AI Security Is More Complex? (12:33 – 14:53)
  • Authentication & Authorisation Challenges for Agents (14:55 – 19:27)
  • What Agentic AI Challenge Keeps You Up At Night? (19:42 – 21:48)
  • How Do You Detect Anomalies When Agent Behaviour Is Non-Deterministic? (22:36 – 25:31)
  • What Does Astrix Security Do? (25:52 – 27:33)
  • Why Is Posture Alone No Longer Sufficient for Securing Non-Human and Agentic Identities? (27:34 – 28:18)
  • The Market Perspective (32:58 – 35:29)
  • Closing Thoughts / Advice for the Audience (36:18 – 38:29)


KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents

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