In this episode, we’re chatting about creativity, what it means to be an artist, and all the weird, complicated stuff that comes with social gatherings. We talk about how hosting can be stressful, how you can still feel lonely even when you’re surrounded by people, and why being real in your art matters. We also get into the expectations we put on our relationships and how having a little structure in social stuff can actually help people connect. Mostly, it’s us reflecting on our own journeys and learning to be okay with the messy, imperfect parts of both art and life