Jon and Tom continue their journey of launching a podcast by experimenting with new tools and discussing the balance between planning and spontaneity in creative endeavors. This episode dives into their brainstorming process, exploring how notebooks, frameworks, and collaborative tools like Figma and Miro fuel their creativity. They reflect on the evolving importance of agile and product mindsets, highlighting the role of adaptability in a fast-changing world.

Jon shares his discovery of being a "fusionist"—someone who integrates diverse fields like design, technology, and systems thinking to simplify complexity and inspire innovation. They also touch on the power of visuals for learning and retention, emphasizing frameworks as tools for clarity and action.

Stay tuned as Jon and Tom navigate personal growth and professional insights, setting the stage for future deep dives into complexity theory and their "next big move."

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