In this episode, we talk to comedian, writer and hand-calloused climbing enthusiast David McIver. Congratulations! There's some silly, rude chat but it's also sort of gentle and subdued which we hope acts as some kind of balance. There's also fan mail and our trademark alphabet game towards the end. Critics are calling it another Great Podcast.

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