Episode 2 is a continuation of our Ep. 1 conversation. The potato chips bowl was moved over to Levi, to decrease its temptation. We discuss the tendency of pushing God a way due to a sense of guiltiness. Apostle Paul hits the nail on its proverbial head when he states in Romans, "For what I want to do I do not do." We all can identify with this. Larry takes us on a ride with the "Salvation Slide": the process of lifelong growth. This episode ends with separation: the ultimate human fear.