Divided Families Podcast

Ep. 20 | Coming Out of the Fog: Transracial International Adoptees on Abolition


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Our second episode commemorating National Adoption Month features three members of a collective of transracial adoptees advocating for abolition of the transracial international adoption system: Meghan Kelly, Chris Santizo-Malafronti, and Eleanor Vasquez-Kelly. Meghan and Eleanor share their radicalizing and transformative experiences of "coming out of the fog" as adoptees and their search for their birth families, followed by a group conversation about the dissonant duality of adoption and its sociopolitical implications today.
To learn more or to collaborate with the collective, you can reach out via email to [email protected].
Resources that our guests shared to learn more about transracial adoption:
Outsiders Within: Writing on Transracial Adoption edited by Julia Chinyere Oparah, Sun Yung Shin, and Jane Jeong Trenka, 2006
https://www.amazon.com/Outsiders-Within-Writing-Transracial-Adoption/dp/0896087646
Declaration Calling for an Immediate End to the Industrial International Adoption System From South Korea, 2017
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A0HW9Ip-r6gdHm9yxqj-VYw9pM-owxii/view
“The New Abolition: Ending Adoption in Our Time” by Daniel Drennan ElAwar
https://dissidentvoice.org/2012/08/the-new-abolition-ending-adoption-in-our-time/
Selling Transracial Adoption: Families, Markets and the Color Line by Elizabeth Raleigh
https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Transracial-Adoption-Families-Markets/dp/1439914788
Not My White Savior: A Memoir in Poems by Julayne Lee https://bookshop.org/books/not-my-white-savior-a-memoir-in-poems/9781945572432?aid=846
Between European Colonial Trafficking, American EmpireBuilding and Nordic Social Engineering: Rethinking International Adoption From a Postcolonial and Feminist Perspective by Tobias Hübinette www.rethinking-nordic-colonialism.org/files/pdf/ACT3/MANUSCRIPTS/Huebinette.pdf
Social media accounts that our guests mentioned to follow and learn more:
@Nowhitesaviors
@Adoptees4Justice
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This episode was edited by Katherine Moncure.
Chapter markers:
00:34 Katherine introduces this episode
01:13-22:26 Meghan and Eleanor share their lived experiences growing up as transracial adoptees and search for birth families
22:42 Paul and Chris discuss the significance of “coming out of the fog” for adoptees
27:18 Eleanor, Chris, and Meghan comment on the relationship between transracial adoption and systems of oppression such as colonialism and ethnocentrism
33:56 Eleanor and Chris share their thoughts and experiences on reuniting with their birth families and the complexities of birth-adoptive family dynamics
40:00 Meghan shares her thoughts and yearning for her heritage and culture
41:50 Discussion of the political implications of these experiences and advocacy of abolishing of the transracial system of adoption
45:55 What are things in the short-term that can be achieved? And what can listeners do to educate themselves and support this cause?
54:06 Katherine closes the episode
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