In this episode, I share a soulversation Michael DeMaria and I had on his podcast Musitations. United in our longtime commitment to healing codependency in our own lives, we explore emotional sobriety and how it relates to the well-being and creativity of the soul. 

Topics explored:

• What is emotional sobriety?
• Our personal journeys with healing codependency and learning to transmute feelings and emotions
• Feeling vs. Emoting and how they're both necessary 
• Our work to live beyond the drama triangle 
• Forming secure attachments outside of the drama triangle 
• Attachments vs. connections 

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McCall

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