Do we have an obligation to obey the law? Do we owe any kind of obedience to the state? Find out what Wolfe, Plato, and Martin Luther have to say as Glenn and Brandon discuss Chapters 3 & 4 of Wolfe's first novel, Operation ARES.

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Up next: Chapters 5 & 6.