In this episode, we’ll meet Joe Johnson, pastor at Parkside Bible Church in Holland, MI, and the new host of the podcast.

Today, Bryan and Joe discuss transitions and positions in church leadership, providing fresh perspectives, addressing the differences between how pastors and board members see things, and touching on logistics in board nominations.

Whether you’re a pastor, a board member, or someone interested in church leadership, there's much to learn from this enriching conversation. Tune in below!

00:00 - Introduction

02:46 - The New Perspective on Leadership

5:18 - Training for Pastors & Board Members

8:22 - The Pastoral Perspective

10:00 - Board Members’ Perspective

14:12 - Uniqueness of Pastors

17:46 - CEO vs. Pastor Dynamics

20:32 - Addressing Assumptions

25:22 - Addressing Logistics in Board Nominations