Jon and I go way back to my early college days where I did not know what I wanted from life and where it would take me. 

But needless to say I am fortunate that we crossed paths and he brought me into the Ranger Challenge Group at Utah State University (USU) because it shaped my decision to eventually joined the services myself much later on.

We both take time to share the Highs and Lows of our service to the country and ultimately what lead us to get out when we did. It was great to find these common threads and unfortunately the tune of tale isn't too uncommon anymore. 

But we also discuss from the negative that was present in our respective organizations, what we also learn from those times as well. And it those decisions and the hardworking and honor in our time in service that has further shaped who we are today