This week, Allison and Max talk about two women who refused to let their voices be silenced. The first, a groundbreaking science fiction writer, became the first of her kind to win The MacArthur Genius Grant; The second, a black woman living in apartheid, became known the world over for her political activism against it: Octavia E. Butler and Lillian Ngoyi.

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