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Ep 23 – Dr John Schaffner, Director Ohio State Coaching Program – How to Better Coach Your Younger Employees
Learn more about Michael Wenderoth, Executive Coach: www.changwenderoth.com
SHOW NOTES:
Dr. John Schaffner is Director of the Ohio State Fisher Coaching Program. His research and work focus on coaching millennials and centennials. In a previous episode, John contrasted coaching to mentoring and therapy – and why we badly need a “GI Bill” to spread coaching. In this conversation, he shares how to better coach today’s younger employees and emerging leaders. We cover “learning to help” (vs burrito listening); addressing the “ought self”; and how companies and what senior leaders and companies get wrong. This episode has been lightly edited and contains profanity.
Key points from my previous conversation with Dr. John Schaffner
- John’s research: coaching millennials
- The importance of “learning to help”
- Listening at the burrito level vs. listening to comprehend
- Millennials and feedback
- Why we need to democratize coaching and provide more of it earlier in our career arc
- Coaching exercise to address the “ought” self: defining roles, expectations and boundary work
- What most companies get wrong about millennials
- Why we need to be more explicit about what excellence means
- Finding the middle ground: Being nutritive vs being combative
- Operationalizing excellence
- What millennials most need to do as they enter their workforce
- VUCA: creating time and space
- Two areas John plans to explore next
- Developing directness and assertiveness
BIO AND LINKS:
Dr. John Schaffner is an executive coach, consultant, and practitioner-scholar. He directs the Coaching Program at the Fisher College of Business at Ohio State and serves as Core Facilitator at Columbia University’s 3CP Coaching Certification Program. Prior to his work as academic director at Ohio State, John served 20 years in learning, development and talent management in industry, a journey that started by leading international tours for Wynton Marsalis and the J@zz at Lincoln Center Orchestra. He holds a MBA from Columbia Business School and Doctorate from Case Western Reserve.
- Previous episode with John: https://redcircle.com/shows/97-effective/episodes/4fae4e9f-bdbf-4cab-8aa5-298544b3651c
- John’s Coaching website: https://www.jschaffner.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjschaffner/
- John’s blog post, Using Star Wars to better understanding coaching vs mentoring: https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/leadreadtoday/blog/coaching-vs-mentorship
- Ohio State’s Fisher Coaching Program: https://fisher.osu.edu/people/schaffner.50
- Columbia 3CP Coaching Certification: https://www.tc.columbia.edu/coachingcertification/
- Michael’s Book, Get Promoted: https://changwenderoth.com/#tve-jump-180481ecea3
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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By Michael WenderothLearn more about Michael Wenderoth, Executive Coach: www.changwenderoth.com
SHOW NOTES:
Dr. John Schaffner is Director of the Ohio State Fisher Coaching Program. His research and work focus on coaching millennials and centennials. In a previous episode, John contrasted coaching to mentoring and therapy – and why we badly need a “GI Bill” to spread coaching. In this conversation, he shares how to better coach today’s younger employees and emerging leaders. We cover “learning to help” (vs burrito listening); addressing the “ought self”; and how companies and what senior leaders and companies get wrong. This episode has been lightly edited and contains profanity.
Key points from my previous conversation with Dr. John Schaffner
- John’s research: coaching millennials
- The importance of “learning to help”
- Listening at the burrito level vs. listening to comprehend
- Millennials and feedback
- Why we need to democratize coaching and provide more of it earlier in our career arc
- Coaching exercise to address the “ought” self: defining roles, expectations and boundary work
- What most companies get wrong about millennials
- Why we need to be more explicit about what excellence means
- Finding the middle ground: Being nutritive vs being combative
- Operationalizing excellence
- What millennials most need to do as they enter their workforce
- VUCA: creating time and space
- Two areas John plans to explore next
- Developing directness and assertiveness
BIO AND LINKS:
Dr. John Schaffner is an executive coach, consultant, and practitioner-scholar. He directs the Coaching Program at the Fisher College of Business at Ohio State and serves as Core Facilitator at Columbia University’s 3CP Coaching Certification Program. Prior to his work as academic director at Ohio State, John served 20 years in learning, development and talent management in industry, a journey that started by leading international tours for Wynton Marsalis and the J@zz at Lincoln Center Orchestra. He holds a MBA from Columbia Business School and Doctorate from Case Western Reserve.
- Previous episode with John: https://redcircle.com/shows/97-effective/episodes/4fae4e9f-bdbf-4cab-8aa5-298544b3651c
- John’s Coaching website: https://www.jschaffner.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjschaffner/
- John’s blog post, Using Star Wars to better understanding coaching vs mentoring: https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/leadreadtoday/blog/coaching-vs-mentorship
- Ohio State’s Fisher Coaching Program: https://fisher.osu.edu/people/schaffner.50
- Columbia 3CP Coaching Certification: https://www.tc.columbia.edu/coachingcertification/
- Michael’s Book, Get Promoted: https://changwenderoth.com/#tve-jump-180481ecea3
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy