CW: This episode includes references to sexual assault and domestic violence. 

In this week’s episode, Sean tells Josh about his recent visit to Gran Canaria and what he liked about his holiday. They discuss the climate, culture, flora, history, and architecture of the Canary Islands as well as the impact of tourism.

Josh tells Sean why he wasn’t a big fan of the new musical film Wicked, starring Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo, and the hosts attempt to dissect why the songs don’t seem to hold up as well in the film version. Josh also explains why he doesn’t think anyone else can play Glinda as well as Kristin Chenoweth.

Finally, there is a fiery discussion about Christmas and how Josh and Sean find it absurd that people celebrate it in a way that causes so much pain, destruction, and landfill. Sean shares some traumatic Christmas memories from his childhood and the hosts discuss how they attempt to avoid the societal pressures to celebrate at this time of year. 

Enjoy the ride!

About the Hosts

Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts

Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan

He works with food charity Made In Hackney  - find out more here:

https://madeinhackney.org

Theme Music

Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts -  Stream it here: 

https://open.spotify.com/track/6EU6ZKIkfy74bLNi1QMX5f

Pre-save ADDICTED TO DESIRE, the new EP from Josh and The Jumpstarts here:

https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/joshandthejumpstarts/addicted-to-desire