Jennifer L. Grinke and Dana J. Stewart sit down with criminal defense attorney Ryne Sandel, a partner at Whalen Law Office, to unpack the world of protective orders — what they are, how they work, and why they’re so often misunderstood. From emergency orders to long-term protections, we explore how these legal tools are issued, enforced, and challenged, and what happens when criminal and family law collide. Whether you’re a legal professional or just curious about how “stay away” becomes a court order, this episode brings clarity to one of the most talked-about, and confusing, parts of family law