Producers Carson Slovak, Grant McFarland, and Rivers of Nihil guitarist Brody Uttley join us for a discussion about their work together.

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Carson, Grant, and Brody worked together on multiple Rivers of Nihil albums, the latest being Where Owls Know My Name. The guys talk about why this has proven to be such a solid team, the unique workflow and techniques they’ve developed, and how they handled some of the many curveballs on this album. And despite a few quick detours into everything from aviation to AI along the way-- but somehow, it all ends up coming back to what ties them together: the music.

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“Even if AI gets to the point where it can create music on the level that a human being can, I feel like it’ll always be pulling from examples that were created by humans. Because I think no matter how far down the line we get with AI, you’re probably not going to be able to simulate something like childhood trauma, the loss of a loved one, or a divorce.” - Brody Uttley

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