In this episode Dr. Oord interacts with the new book from Grace Ji-Sun Kim and Susan M. Shaw entitled, Surviving God: A New Vision of God through the Eyes of Sexual Abuse Survivors.

This will be one of many books discussed and explored further by authors and panelists at the upcoming ORTLine25 Open and Relational Online Conference which will be held February 20-22, 2025.  Registration is now open for this online conference featuring about 30 Open and Relational authors/books.