Join Marissa Martino interview Matt Beisner of The Zen Dog in Los Angeles, CA, and the Nat Geo WILD and Disney Plus show Dog: Impossible. Together they explore the gifts the process and experience of training dogs and their people have to offer, from being a part of the dog's learning process while offering them agency, to co-creating solutions with our clients, to being brave enough to observe ourselves during this process and making the necessary changes to shape into the people and behavior consultants we long to be.