Carrie and Doug bring on Paul Pape - TEDx speaker, creative problem-solver, and self-described “Santa for Nerds” - to fuss about why creatives struggle with business, why that’s not their fault, and how gamifying money, leadership, and work can change everything.

Topics discussed:

-Creatives aren’t “bad at business” — it’s a translation problem
-Neuro-spicy brains, character sheets, and workplace strengths
-How to price your work without apologizing for it
-Why business needs creativity (and vice versa)
-Wizards, warriors, and not being a non-playable character in your own life

We invite you to grab your sword and join the conversation adventure to see what happens!