Guest: Clare Daly and Mick Wallace. We talk to the Irish Members of the European Parliament who are now some of the most powerful anti-war voices heard around the world. We discuss the war in Ukraine, sanctions, flooding the war with more arms and how all of these things lead to more war and destruction, not peace. We disagree with taking sides in a situation that requires more nuance. In a bonus segment, we talk about the position of neutrality taken by Ireland and how this status is constantly under pressure. 

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Recorded on April 12, 2022. Music by Fluorescent Grey.