Stephanie and Craig catch up on issues from the last few weeks: a few developments in anti-terrorism trials; the new RCMP commissioner; and IMSI catchers (again). Then they talk about national security aspects in the federal Budget, with a focus on cyber and the no fly list. They work in a chat about "going dark" and lawful access. And then they debate whether the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians should review L'Affaire Atwal and the PM's India visit.