In this fine new episode JV talks with more successful artists, Cara & Chester, from deep in the wilds of the woods.  Well not that deep.  And not that wild.  But STILL these folks are full of interesting insights regarding self-employment and how to make a truly successful living as professional artists.  Sit back and enjoy this most INTERESTING episode.

Also after listening check this out:  https://www.caraobrienobjects.com