Content warning: this episode contains mentions of PTSD and suicidal thoughts and ideation. If that is triggering for you, you may want to skip that one and that’s totally okay! We love you either way.

Drew Petersen (he/him) is a passionate skier, runner, and mountain athlete on a mission to change our culture surrounding mental health. In his career as a professional skier, he blends storytelling with his athletic adventures—ranging from skiing lines in the backcountry to running 100 miles—to bring people along for the ride and to advocate for things he cares about.

In this episode, John and Drew discuss:

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You can watch the full new film, Ups and Downs.

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