In this episode, we sit down with Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, executive director of the Texas Society of Association Executives. We chat about personal journeys, industry insights, and strategic partnerships. We discuss the impact of the pandemic on association innovation, challenges within our space, the value of state organizations and networking, and the future of the association community. And we throw in some hot opinions on "mediocre salads," 80s/90s nostalgia, and Steven's days as a radio DJ.