Challenges and triumphs are met by this incredible duo who both better each other and those around them by talking about hard things, and putting their personal moments up for all to see.

This week we have the pleasure of speaking with Ali and Dave Kervin, hosts of the Ruck N' Rise podcast.  Both are passionate about mental health and speaking to as many people as possible to amplify their message.

Come with us as they speak about what makes them work together as a team, that we think most couples are missing.  Follow along as they bring you through some painful parts of their lives both past and present, and rise with them as they show how they are determined not to let it define them or what they bring to the world.

Spend the next hour with two amazing people, who want you to know you are worth it and can do it.

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