On this episode I get to sit down with the incomparable Chief James Seballes, USSF.  He tells stories that explain why he leads the way he does. We also discuss: Why him and Daisy (his wife) are so quick to care for others, Growing up with a hard working single mother, getting mistaken for other races, How he met Daisy, and how you can't trust a girl with a stick of gum, what it's like to not be valued by your employer, How the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl was during DENY FLIGHT, experiences being Latino, preparing your kids to navigate the world, proud parenting moments, how you never feel like you did enough for your kids, the importance of telling your story and showing your imperfections, DAD JOKES, the Space Force CREATING "the way we've always done it", and BATHROOM TALK.

Music by Tom Tierney: imadethisinmycloset.bandcamp.com  @death_r0b0t on Instagram