Robert Roncska carried the nuclear codes as the commanding officer of a $2 billion nuclear submarine. He has written two books about what he learned down there, and the one he talks about most with Sam Sapp is titled Beyond the Sea: Leading with Love from the Nuclear Navy to the White House and Health Care. The conversation moves from the fear-based commanding officer who once made a young Robert wet his pants, to the mentor who showed him a different way, to a five-second hallway conversation four years later that helped bring a child into the world.