In this episode, we’re talking about a topic that has become increasingly rare in our politics: civility. From heated exchanges online to the growing divides we see in our communities, it feels harder than ever to have meaningful conversations across differences.

To explore this issue, I sat down with Oklahoma State Representative Daniel Pae (R-Lawton). Known for his bipartisan approach and commitment to respectful dialogue, Representative Pae shared his thoughts on what civility really means, how it plays out at the Oklahoma State Capitol, and what each of us can do to bridge divides in our own conversations…. This is For the Record.