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Rafael Adames has his own podcast called Talk or Tap that he started this year, just like me. This episode we speak about each other’s creative process when deciding to start our shows, as well as future plans. Raf is also one of my media guys/training partners as he is a very talented content creator and martial artist. Make sure you guys check out his show and follow his Instagram accounts @adamesmma and @thefightexperience. Follow me as well on Instagram @abarbosa000, follow the show wherever you listen and as always tell everyone about us! Thank you so much and most importantly, ENJOY. I DO NOT OWN OR CLAIM TO OWN ANY OF THE MUSIC IN THIS PODCAST. 

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