Gar is joined this week by Michael McKinnon, AISA Melbourne’s Deputy Chair. Michael has done it all, he was the CTO as well as the Media Spokesperson and Security Awareness Director at AVG. He worked at HackLabs in governance, pen testing, ran security awareness training and red teaming. He worked at Pure Security providing C-level advice, incident leadership and future proofing security spend. Michael also gives back to the security community with his AISA involvement.

Thanks to Michaels wide range of security experience, there’s very little you can’t ask him about. In this episode we get his perspective on the role and value of formal education and certifications in the world of cyber security, how training has evolved and where it might go, and what hiring managers are looking for. Gar and Michael also talk about the world of SMEs and reflect on the challenge of the supply chain, c-level strategy, the disconnect between business and tech, ransomware trends, incident response and digital forensics.