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Welcome to unPACKed, an open-minded podcast taking a clinical, *not political*, approach to help pet parents around the world. Join Sailor Jerri and Mattison, certified trainers and canine behavior experts with a combined 3 decades of experience in behavioral dog training.

This is a special two-part event where Jerri and Mattison are digging deep into questions about their personal lives in an interview format. If you have every wondered, "who are Jerri and Mattison?" this is your chance to find out!

To apply for next season, see photos of the dogs featured in this episode, or read full episode transcripts, visit us at www.unpacked.stream and connect with us on Instagram @Sailorjerrithedogtrainer and @Freedbytraining.

unPACKed was created by Jerri Scherff and Mattison Simpson.  Visual design by Mattison Simpson and theme music by Oleksandr Stepanov. Follow our sister podcast at  Straight Up Dog Talk LLC .